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Poster: Javik Date: Jul 10, 2009 10:33pm
Forum: petabox Subject: I assume this forum is now obsolete

This is now a very dead forum it seems. But storage seems to have taken off to insane heights following the development of perpendicular magnetic recording and the first drives in 2006.

We've gone from a mere 300 gigs of storage, up to, what? 2 TB in a 3.5 inch drive? Meanwhile pricing has crashed downward to what seem to be ridiculous depths.

It was only a few short years ago that I paid $350 for a 320 gig drive, then the largest drive available.

At this time NewEgg tells me that a 750 gig drive can be had for only $70, while a 1500 gig drive costs a mere $129.

This means my formerly ultra-expensive 320 gig drive is now worth about $25 or less, and the cost for the Archive to build a petabyte of storage has gone down by a factor of about twelve in only 3 years.

And what's more, we still have a ways to go before perpendicular recording runs out of gas. It seems feasible for a 5 TB drive to eventually exist, in only a few more years. If big half-height 5.25" drives were still being made, we'd already be at 10 TB per drive or so.

It appears our past discussions of multi-drive SATA arrays and SAS extenders is a joke at this point, not really worth bothering with due to the utter cheapness of the storage technology.

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Will the last person in this forum please turn the lights out?

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Poster: Coderjo Date: Jul 15, 2009 4:17am
Forum: petabox Subject: Re: I assume this forum is now obsolete

There are still uses for vary large arrays of (mostly) idle disks (MAID), when you have very very large collections of data that needs to be available.

However, I suspect that the Internet Archive has abandoned the Petabox design in favor of Sun's donated datacenter-in-a-box. I'm sure they're likely still using existing hardware for a while yet, though.

(see:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=243665
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=238517
)

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Poster: jack liu Date: Nov 24, 2009 1:49am
Forum: petabox Subject: Re: I assume this forum is now obsolete

"There are still uses for vary large arrays of (mostly) idle disks (MAID), when you have very very large collections of data that needs to be available.": Coderjoe

not exactly! this site http://www.greenyeastinfection.com is a little site ,but it just uses MAID! just because they have so much money :)

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Oct 16, 2009 8:57pm
Forum: petabox Subject: Re: I assume this forum is now obsolete

we are doing *both* now, actually!

the majority of our data (the items we have /details/ pages for)
are still on this petabox set of red boxes.
we've morphed the motherboard over the years, and upp-ed the size of
each disk (up to 2TB each now), but overall the schtick is the same.

our wayback data has moved entirely to our new sun "datacenter in a box".

we are working on some new petabox designs for our /details/ page data/items but that is still in process...

--tracey, archive staff